“I Think” I have you now.
Can you GUESS the best move?
Once upon a time in a state far away I played a game of X-Wing with my
best friend and learned to love it immediately.
In this game I had to pick a maneuver from a limited amount of choices,
some rewarding and some punishing, all while anticipating what my opponent
might choose himself. Would I put myself
in harms way with no return on damage or would I outsmart of choose the most
optimal option.
I found this back and forth exciting. While I also found it exciting to run his Lambda off the board with ions I realized that is not very much fun for him and his experience. I won the game by taking away my opponent’s chance to choose the dial, a game situation called Choice - Negative Player Experience (NPE).
I found this back and forth exciting. While I also found it exciting to run his Lambda off the board with ions I realized that is not very much fun for him and his experience. I won the game by taking away my opponent’s chance to choose the dial, a game situation called Choice - Negative Player Experience (NPE).
As I left gaming for my sanity of my wallet (looking at you Legend of
the Five Rings and losing all my Battletech miniatures) I did not immediately
pick up the game. Upon returning home my
wife out of guilt of all the comics she read suggested I start playing X-Wing
so I started showing up to a local gaming store waiting for anyone, ANYONE to play
a game. Most were playing Sails of Glory
so I started to learn the game but didn’t want to buy in….I wanted to play
X-Wing.
Once diving in the game, I quickly learned the choice of actions is a fundamental
part of the game and could squeeze out victories with attention to flying and
action economy hence my dive into B-Wings and FCS. I know theoretically more ship is better but
I always found flying 3 of them with special abilities and weapons. So, while I enjoyed “combos” and “action economy”
I also loved flying the TIE Interceptor purely for the maneuvering space. I even played around with A-Wings finding
that they really sucked as blockers (looking at you TIE Fighter). I picked them up again after they gained Autothrusters
(action economy) and Proton Rockets. Why
did I try that combo? The dreaded
Decimator with all the stress mechanics.
My B-Wings were dead since the dial was suppressively limited in
comparison to the Decimator. There were
little to no options against a large based ship because I could not turn around
or really go past. The maneuver “punishment”
had grown beyond the dial to the opponent’s combinations and the opponents dial.
This became the turning point where I didn’t just have awareness of
dials but how they impacted the game in multiple facets. The concepts of reward and punishment grew
perhaps to be called open and restrictive.
The battle concepts, the tactics, formation flying with multiple types
of ships, and synergies took a whole new level of understanding. But damn that Phantom. It broke the game. Dials no longer mattered because whatever you
picked, the enemy always had an answer.
I call this Knowledge – NPE.
I also grew tiresome of large ships moving faster then small ships. A 4-straight maneuver on a large ship matches the fastest TIEs and A-Wings. Now when I watch A New Hope (ANH) I get so frustrated watching the Millennium Falcon flying slower than the TIE Fighters. Doesn’t the pilot know they can go faster? After a few maneuvers those TIES are chasing you and never will catch up, set your 4-straight on the dial. Why are you letting them Strafe you? So now my movies are losing their glamour. Thanks FFG.
I also grew tiresome of large ships moving faster then small ships. A 4-straight maneuver on a large ship matches the fastest TIEs and A-Wings. Now when I watch A New Hope (ANH) I get so frustrated watching the Millennium Falcon flying slower than the TIE Fighters. Doesn’t the pilot know they can go faster? After a few maneuvers those TIES are chasing you and never will catch up, set your 4-straight on the dial. Why are you letting them Strafe you? So now my movies are losing their glamour. Thanks FFG.
Over time, I noticed a trend that new ships were more exciting to the
community because the dials were more open, meaning more maneuvers and/or less
stress generated maneuvers. This gives
pilots more options on where they want to be, reducing the cost in deciding
where to be at the end of activation. Still
had to pick the right one but that is upon you.
No longer was a decision an optimal choice for this turn to setup the
right decision 3 turns later but rather the right decision this turn. Games become more about right now and not
future battle state development. Some of
the Community became disappointed.
When the Bumpmasters…..ahem….Jumpmasters came out I basically threw my
hands in the air and said this will be a staple to any and all of my Scum lists. This was the ship I needed when I flew to B’s
with bumpers back in the earlier waves.
This will be crazy and I bought 3.
I missed the Deadeye Torpedo options which is embarrassing as I fly munitions
quite a bit for fun (and tournaments as I have flown B-Wings in 5 out of 8 Premier
events the last 3 years). I became very
concerned the developers had NO CLUE about the importance of the dial and how
it impacted the game. So while everyone
was freaking out about the Torp Boats and then Dengaroo….I kept giving the dial
the stink-eye. I knew where the core problem
resided, the rest were amplifiers of brokenness. If the Jumpmaster had the Hawk Dial, would it
be so prominent? I for one do not
believe so. I practiced flying Trip-Jumps
with B-Wing dials and it SUCKED. The YT-2400
at that point became a better blocking ship.
I had hope the developers learned their mistake but I knew all hope became lost when the Shadowcaster reared its ugly head. Green 3-Turns. Interceptors, Defenders, A-Wings and other small based ships were ANGRY….”Why????” they asked. “Why??” did the developers hate them. But not only did it have Green 3-Turns, it could still go a 1 with no stress. It could go fast and slow. I am not going to talk about my belief that acceleration/de-accelerations was baked into the dials at the beginning and the design decisions since Wave 3 ignoring this constraint.
So with all this “Dial Creep”, pretty much the only caveat has been the Imperial ships. New Imperials are limited by maneuvers, which is really backwards to me as they are supposed to be the cheaper more maneuverable ships. When I saw dials like the TIE/sf come out I am very happy and glad. At least some fundamentals were still leaking into the game.
But I failed. I did not succeed in reaching out to FFG to talk about the importance of the maneuver dial. I thought I had one more year. I was wrong (not the first time in timeline assessment). Therefore, I have said some comments and have been called out and hopefully this blog(s) will not be complaining but explaining my thoughts and concerns. I want to be clear. X-Wing 2.0 is needed to be right with the Developers, so they can start releasing less broken products. However, I believe the old X-Wing is dead and the maneuver dials are the proof.
So why am I calling that X-Wing 2.0 (E2) has a fundamental gaming problem after only a few dials have been released? Because the same general trend for the past 3 years is evident again in the dials shown in released pictures. More maneuver options, less punishment, more rewards, less decision making based on available maneuvers and just more on just guessing (because it is now more guessing) where your opponent will try to go.
Let me explain in more details even though I have ran over time writing the fluff and not the why…..and now receiving wife aggro. (perhaps I will update this later section).
When a player is trying to determine if they can block a ship, they must determine where that ship may possibly go. On a decision tree difficulty, is a stressed Y-Wing, Protectorate Starfighter (Fang Fighter), or TIE Silencer the hardest or easiest to determine? The TIE Silencer can do 3 banks that the Fang Fighter can not take so there are 2 more additional positions that it can go you must make a decision upon. The Y-Wing is the most predictable since they can only take straights to clear stress. The Fang Fighter is pretty maneuverable so it is still in the harder category but not as much as the TIE Silencer. “But Wait” you say. “Bumping is an after affect of space resources in a game, it is not necessary” True, but this also applies also to arc angles. Where will the arcs be after moving? Where will the ship be after moving? If actions were not important then stress mechanics would not be important but any good player would tell you actions ARE important. So therefore, stress is important.
I had hope the developers learned their mistake but I knew all hope became lost when the Shadowcaster reared its ugly head. Green 3-Turns. Interceptors, Defenders, A-Wings and other small based ships were ANGRY….”Why????” they asked. “Why??” did the developers hate them. But not only did it have Green 3-Turns, it could still go a 1 with no stress. It could go fast and slow. I am not going to talk about my belief that acceleration/de-accelerations was baked into the dials at the beginning and the design decisions since Wave 3 ignoring this constraint.
So with all this “Dial Creep”, pretty much the only caveat has been the Imperial ships. New Imperials are limited by maneuvers, which is really backwards to me as they are supposed to be the cheaper more maneuverable ships. When I saw dials like the TIE/sf come out I am very happy and glad. At least some fundamentals were still leaking into the game.
But I failed. I did not succeed in reaching out to FFG to talk about the importance of the maneuver dial. I thought I had one more year. I was wrong (not the first time in timeline assessment). Therefore, I have said some comments and have been called out and hopefully this blog(s) will not be complaining but explaining my thoughts and concerns. I want to be clear. X-Wing 2.0 is needed to be right with the Developers, so they can start releasing less broken products. However, I believe the old X-Wing is dead and the maneuver dials are the proof.
So why am I calling that X-Wing 2.0 (E2) has a fundamental gaming problem after only a few dials have been released? Because the same general trend for the past 3 years is evident again in the dials shown in released pictures. More maneuver options, less punishment, more rewards, less decision making based on available maneuvers and just more on just guessing (because it is now more guessing) where your opponent will try to go.
Let me explain in more details even though I have ran over time writing the fluff and not the why…..and now receiving wife aggro. (perhaps I will update this later section).
When a player is trying to determine if they can block a ship, they must determine where that ship may possibly go. On a decision tree difficulty, is a stressed Y-Wing, Protectorate Starfighter (Fang Fighter), or TIE Silencer the hardest or easiest to determine? The TIE Silencer can do 3 banks that the Fang Fighter can not take so there are 2 more additional positions that it can go you must make a decision upon. The Y-Wing is the most predictable since they can only take straights to clear stress. The Fang Fighter is pretty maneuverable so it is still in the harder category but not as much as the TIE Silencer. “But Wait” you say. “Bumping is an after affect of space resources in a game, it is not necessary” True, but this also applies also to arc angles. Where will the arcs be after moving? Where will the ship be after moving? If actions were not important then stress mechanics would not be important but any good player would tell you actions ARE important. So therefore, stress is important.
Now take 2.0 and instead of limiting ship dials to bring back more challenging maneuver decisions, they are now increased. The Y-Wing E2 is no longer limited to straight maneuvers so now your UNCERTAINTY increases. Your decision tree becomes more difficult. The Y-Wing E2 can now bank, lose the stress, and then Barrel Roll (for a stress of course). At range 3 this will not be a significant change but at range 1 this could potentially change the damage race along with following turn decisions.
Why is an increase in Uncertainty important? It makes your decisions more a guess, not knowledge base with an increase of catastrophic failure. What are your options. Well, that is a whole complete topic of discussion that will be hashed out in podcasts and articles in the following months. The key becomes your decisions will move toward luck and positive/negative consequences. More variety, not necessarily based on skill but luck. Can you guess the best move?
What exactly are more open dials in E2 really changing? Making maneuver decisions upon game-state
knowledge decreases while making guesses increases. Will some new mechanics such as actions loss
help, perhaps? Will it balance, perhaps? But has knowledge-NPE increased, I am betting
on it.
The increase in maneuver options means for you as a player, you have
less knowledge of where your opponent may end up to accomplish what he needs to
win/survive in a game. He can now pick
any and nearly all maneuvers. This means
your ability to fail in picking the correct or optimal move increases. You just
became a worse or luckiest pilot in the galaxy.
Congratulations.
Several ships needed to have improved dials, either removing stress or adding additional maneuvers. Some that come to mind is the Y-Wing, B-Wing, HWK-290 as examples. But not all ships needed to have their dials improved. The jury is still out as we don’t have full knowledge of other changes. Do you think FFG is only going to improve a few iconic ships? I for one doubt it very much.
Several ships needed to have improved dials, either removing stress or adding additional maneuvers. Some that come to mind is the Y-Wing, B-Wing, HWK-290 as examples. But not all ships needed to have their dials improved. The jury is still out as we don’t have full knowledge of other changes. Do you think FFG is only going to improve a few iconic ships? I for one doubt it very much.
After the doom and gloom, is there any positives in X-Wing 2.0 Yes,
there are so many great things in E2 and I will not list them all. Will it still be a fundamentally fun game,
yes. Will veterans love it. I don’t know but most likely. Will there be fundamental flaws, yes. The question
becomes, with improved maneuvers, will it still be as much fun?
I do know the approach to the game will have to change. More ships will fall into the Arc Dodging maneuver roll but not necessarily have the Push the Limits (PTL) to Barrel Roll (BR) and Boost. Will this make a difference, most likely. Will new tactics be developed? Of course. This is a great time of mental growth and exploration. I for one hope that the maneuver dials will not impede future growth of the game and lose it differentiation from other games.
I do know the approach to the game will have to change. More ships will fall into the Arc Dodging maneuver roll but not necessarily have the Push the Limits (PTL) to Barrel Roll (BR) and Boost. Will this make a difference, most likely. Will new tactics be developed? Of course. This is a great time of mental growth and exploration. I for one hope that the maneuver dials will not impede future growth of the game and lose it differentiation from other games.
Don’t take my writing as a truly negative approach to the new X-Wing 2.0 game. It is going to be SUPER fun, it is the same cost as a single Wave for a faction, less so for future factions. So many improvements have been made. This blog is about 1 of 3 aspects I am disappointed in or have concerns. I truly hope that I am wrong and everything is good.
